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Alan Lawrence
05-09-2004, 01:09 PM
..well what can be said about today's race? A crash on the first lap with a rider going into the back of a car! The car was well in the riders view and from where I was the incident should not have happened!

Then on the start of the 3rd lap we were going along when out of the blue about 10 riders were involved in another accident when someone touched wheels for no particular reason!!??

It's not the courses that cause the safety problems it's the RIDERS!!

Unless the riders change the way they use the road whilst racing we will LOSE our right to race on the open road, that's my opinion anyway.

I understand that accidents do happen but the accidents that happened today should not have happened!

Alan Lawrence

Angliasport Cycling Club

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Pocket Rocket
05-09-2004, 01:18 PM
..well what can be siad about today's race? A crash on the first lap with a rider going into the back of a car! The car was well in the riders view and from where I was the incident should not have happened!

Then on the start of the 3rd lap we were going along when out of the blue about 10 riders were involved in another accident when someone touched wheels for no particular reason!!??

It's not the courses that cause the safety problems it's the RIDERS!

Alan Lawrence

Angliasport Cycling Club

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
oh dear, was you involved in an accident at all?
Do you know the result?

Alan Lawrence
05-09-2004, 05:15 PM
..yer got tangled up in the second stack and as you can imagine 3/4 of the race decided to attack at the same time! :evil:

Lost about a minute and to be honest I would have probably got on at the base of the Littlebury climb and then got shelled due to the effort of getting back on!

Never mind never ride well in the hot weather so looking forward to a cold & wet end of season. :wink:

Not sure of the result as I shot of before the finish.

PS. What is your name and what club are you in?

Pocket Rocket
05-09-2004, 09:15 PM
..yer got tangled up in the second stack and as you can imagine 3/4 of the race decided to attack at the same time! :evil:

Lost about a minute and to be honest I would have probably got on at the base of the Littlebury climb and then got shelled due to the effort of getting back on!

Never mind never ride well in the hot weather so looking forward to a cold & wet end of season. :wink:

Not sure of the result as I shot of before the finish.

PS. What is your name and what club are you in?
Sorry to hear that Alan
George Olive North Road CC :wink:

Alan Lawrence
05-09-2004, 10:43 PM
Have not seen ya lately Goerge, how ya doing and the last time that I saw you was at the Crest race around the same circuit in March! If I do remember you punctured and a few of ya had to wait in wet kit as you could not get ya kit from the car??

See ya soon - Alan :lol:

Pocket Rocket
06-09-2004, 09:22 AM
Yeah that was me, although I didn't puncture but got shat out the back with a load of others up the hill :wink:
I've actually been doing mostly track this year, i'll do LCPG in a few weeks time as its on my doorstep and then give it a good go next year

ChrisB
06-09-2004, 10:05 AM
Result and new tables now up on the main site, lads.

Chris

bigB
06-09-2004, 01:41 PM
Do you think it is the 4th Cats that cause the problems? I am new to road racing and have tried to get some tips from more experienced riders about road racing. I find that in 4th Cat races riders rush past going nowhere in particular. They seem to cut across in front almost unaware anyone else is racing. Also the testosterone seems to get to some people. In the Harlow 4th Cat RR someone shot through the middle of the group into someone at the front, going down and bringing 10 others with him. The thing is I am not really sure where he thought he was going?

Note this is not all 4th Cats just some.

Or do you think it is a general problem with some people irrelevant of category ?

ChrisB
06-09-2004, 02:03 PM
It's generally a problem with lower-level racing - you don't tend to see it happening in races with lots of E's or 1sts in. Inexperience plays a part, for sure. A good chain-gang work-experience programme should be a prerequisite for a BC license!

bigB
06-09-2004, 02:12 PM
I think some sort of pre-requisite training would be of great help. Even if it was just a class room discussion, with an exam at the end!

This is the sort of thing you need for motor racing.

Alan Lawrence
06-09-2004, 04:45 PM
..accidents that occur are usually when the pace of the bunch slows down and then riders use this time to move up. This sort of move can be safe but NOT going into blind corners or when a car is approaching!!

To make things worse 85% of the riders that do move up to the front do nothing when they get there!? With a course like yesterday (dirty great climb, the heat etc) there was NO reason to move up on the easy sections coz if ya had the legs you would have made up the lost ground on the 'ard bits and that way we would have all stayed upright!

Plus we have to think about the other road users and what damage it does for the sport especially for our future of racing on the open road in Essex.

:wink:

PS. The category system makes no difference to crashes, as I mentioned it's down to common sense. :lol:

racyrich
08-09-2004, 03:22 PM
Hi Alan.
No, we didn't attack when that crash happened. In fact, I was on the front at the time maintianing my usual lamentable speed. Your teammate (!!! Yes! Dunno his name. Orange frame) sprinted past, but I told him the error of his ways.
Glad you were OK anyway.

Rich

Andy B
08-09-2004, 05:31 PM
..yer got tangled up in the second stack and as you can imagine 3/4 of the race decided to attack at the same time! :evil:

Lost about a minute and to be honest I would have probably got on at the base of the Littlebury climb and then got shelled due to the effort of getting back on!

Never mind never ride well in the hot weather so looking forward to a cold & wet end of season. :wink:

Not sure of the result as I shot of before the finish.

PS. What is your name and what club are you in?

Full result on our website: http://www.easterleycycling.org.uk/results.html#falling_leaves_2004

Alan Lawrence
08-09-2004, 08:55 PM
Hi Alan.
No, we didn't attack when that crash happened. In fact, I was on the front at the time maintianing my usual lamentable speed. Your teammate (!!! Yes! Dunno his name. Orange frame) sprinted past, but I told him the error of his ways.
Glad you were OK anyway.

Rich

Thanks Rich for the infomation and the Angliasport rider was Rob Hobbs who I will speak to about trying to take advantage of a situation. The way I look at it what comes around goes around and I never forget anything.

Alan :wink:

Andy B
10-09-2004, 05:08 PM
BTW Alan, if you had put your e-mail address on your entry form you would have had an e-mail from me with the full result on the afternoon of the race!

ChrisB
10-09-2004, 05:22 PM
But you didn't find time to mail poor old me until Monday morning? Shocking :shock: :shock: :shock: :wink:

Alan Lawrence
10-09-2004, 07:48 PM
BTW Alan, if you had put your e-mail address on your entry form you would have had an e-mail from me with the full result on the afternoon of the race!

Please find attached the results of the Easterley Falling Leaves Road Race this morning in html format. You can also view the result on our website at http://www.easterleycycling.org.uk/results.html#falling_leaves.2004


I would like to thank all the marshals and officials and everyone else who helped with the smooth running of the race.

Hope to see you all again next year

Regards
Andrew Ballentyne
Organiser.

BTW, Andy I did have my e-mail address on the entry form and you did e-mail me the result, details above that I recieved Sunday afternoon!!?? :?